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Post by Webmaster on Jul 12, 2007 12:39:27 GMT -5
There has been a series of very inappropriate posts of late.
It will stop now. I apologize that I have not been more dictatorial on this issue before. I've always hoped that the board could be self monitored. From time to time, I've had to ban some members, but for the most part this has been a community focused on healing.
But some members are focused on hurting. Those members will be invited to stop and receive one warning. A second offense will result in a permanent ban.
What is flaming?
There are many ways you can flame someone, but for example, flaming is calling people names, giving them little made up "awards" to insult them, taking their inventories for the purpose of criticizing rather than helping. I'll be the judge and jury and I have decided that for the sake of the community, I'm going to have to be pretty strict about this.
Should you feel like you have been flamed or personally attacked, simply send me a PM and I will take care of the matter as quickly as possible.
If you find yourself inclined to flame others, I would suggest that you might need to really evaluate why you feel such a need. Usually, our feelings of disgust for another person are masking something about ourselves that we are disgusted with.
Please be nice.
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Post by ferdberfil on Jul 12, 2007 13:02:38 GMT -5
I appreciate that, Wes.
I also know it's a difficult role for you to be in since "flaming" is actually sometimes quite separate from "trolling."
It would seem to me that trolls are easier to deal with, they're just an intentional nuisance with no potentially redeeming qualities, while those who engage in "flaming" here potentially can have a lot to offer, and I would daresay are frequently just hurt people who hurt people.
I appreciate that you've thought about this and hope you use your "god power" judiciously.
-FB
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Post by glofishy on Jul 12, 2007 13:14:06 GMT -5
Wait a sec! This doesn't include the prestigious "Boob Award" that is nominated and given in a honorable way in another forum, does it?
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Post by Elphie WWOTW on Jul 12, 2007 13:20:04 GMT -5
Ah, man... guess that means that the "Magna Cum Laude Graduate of the Special Kind of Stupid School" awards are out the window now...
*SNIFF* *SNIFF*... could someone hand me a tissue???
I'm sure gonna miss those suckers... *SNIFF*
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Post by gpb on Jul 12, 2007 13:52:06 GMT -5
Hello, Wes;
I agree fully with you that the flaming has to stop. It's wrong, no matter who does it. Thanks for all that you're doing for us on this Site. My very best to you and your family.
Grace and peace,
Guy
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Post by LookingUp on Jul 12, 2007 14:12:11 GMT -5
Thank you for this forum and for making new measures to keep it a healing, humane place to learn, grow and heal.
LookingUp
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Post by Webmaster on Jul 12, 2007 15:26:45 GMT -5
Wait a sec! This doesn't include the prestigious "Boob Award" that is nominated and given in a honorable way in another forum, does it? I have read that forum two or three times. While I disagree with some of the posts that are written there, I am not about to begin to worry about a second forum. This forum is challenging enough. I believe the forum you are referring to has a great capacity for good. And I recognize that more freedom to vent is potentially a very good thing. However, I have been deeply saddened by some of the things I've read over there, and when it has spilled over here, that is no longer acceptable to me. You should also know that I really don't want to ban anyone. Obviously. Ferd, you are right, banning a troll is much easier on me emotionally. Wes
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Post by GrowingWiser on Jul 12, 2007 16:01:12 GMT -5
So, this has nothing at all to do with spontaneous combustion, right?
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Post by Curious Voyager on Jul 12, 2007 16:03:26 GMT -5
It bugs me to personalize everything and I should be quiet right now anyway.
What the hell did I say this time?
Ok, I know there have been some and yes I mean actually mean and NOT nice things posted lately/ By me? Could be, I ain't right in the head.
WEs, flaming and or baiting, is part of the landscape around here. has it not been this way a long time. It has, I know it and so do they, gotten worse. Have we ever stopped to ask our Selfs why it has gotten worse?
I remember and not to rekindle old flames--the days when God wars happened every few days. BUT really, WHY has thist gotten worse or perhpas more blantant?
Is this not a subject worthy of discussion. cause if it ani't I can be put in my place.
Well OF course I have theories on why. Don't you?
Wes, direct question here: Is why this is happening a question for open, intellegent, reasonable discussion or shoudl we just skip over it and pretend this ends here?
Gosh It's hard to type straight. I await your wisdom on this.
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Post by cflanders on Jul 12, 2007 16:19:00 GMT -5
MonkeyMan, I'm chiming in on this one (not that you asked my opinion) but hey.... ;D Does it matter why this has escalated? At the end of the day, verbal abuse isn't tolerated here. People can do whatever they want on other websites provided it's not illegal; we can choose to read at our discretion knowing we may be a target (especially if we have chosen to be vulnerable in this forum about our struggles). But the NP webmaster has decided to not allow personal attacks here. We can debate all day long the whys and whether it's right or wrong - no two people are going to completely agree on all points - things will just continue to escalate in an unproductive manner. JMHO.
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Post by Curious Voyager on Jul 12, 2007 16:33:00 GMT -5
But the NP webmaster has decided to not allow personal attacks here. We can debate all day long the whys and whether it's right or wrong - no two people are going to completely agree on all points - things will just continue to escalate in an unproductive manner. JMHO. And I do support that, actully I long for a more civil discourse--odd coming from me?
But part of what I see happening is that something is said that is NOT an attack and a reply that fans the flames is made which tends to escalate the thiung beyond reason.
I guess, what exactly is an attack and what exactly is a flame? Oh wait now, yes, "I know it when I see it" might work. But I have seen and very recently some responses to things that wree NOT attacks or flames whipped up into a frothy reply which only created the fuel to feed flames. (sometimes flames are obvious and don't require examination)
It's right, I think ,that many of us are HYPER sensitive. Part of recovery, I think, is learning to get past that hypersensitivity and see things from a different perspective, You've been heer a long time too.
Have you forgotten the grief that was heaped on me when I brought the 1st 2x4 out to whack somebody. good lord you woulkd ahve thought 1/2 the computer screens logged on that day got blood spattered. theer are still some heer who object to the use of a well placed 2X4. It can be noted that I no longer use them. Why? I no longer need them.
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Post by Curious Voyager on Jul 12, 2007 16:40:10 GMT -5
Ah, man... guess that means that the "Magna Cum Laude Graduate of the Special Kind of Stupid School" awards are out the window now...
*SNIFF* *SNIFF*... could someone hand me a tissue???
I'm sure gonna miss those suckers... *SNIFF* Wait a sec! This doesn't include the prestigious "Boob Award" that is nominated and given in a honorable way in another forum, does it? love you 2 and you know that. I'm not telling you what to do but
Say you're sorry and take We's post iin the serious spirit in which it is intended. Just do it or monkey tears will drip into your cauldrons.
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Post by cflanders on Jul 12, 2007 16:42:11 GMT -5
How could I not support a monkey who can type?
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Post by Elphie WWOTW on Jul 12, 2007 17:10:16 GMT -5
You got it, Toyota, Wes.
Can I still hand out axes to the Beautiful Ladies as they're needed though??? Otherwise, my flying monkeys are gonna be out of a job, and what with the unemployment rate being what it is right now, that would make for some very sad flying monkeys...
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Post by Elphie WWOTW on Jul 12, 2007 17:14:08 GMT -5
Ah, man... guess that means that the "Magna Cum Laude Graduate of the Special Kind of Stupid School" awards are out the window now...
*SNIFF* *SNIFF*... could someone hand me a tissue???
I'm sure gonna miss those suckers... *SNIFF* Wait a sec! This doesn't include the prestigious "Boob Award" that is nominated and given in a honorable way in another forum, does it? love you 2 and you know that. I'm not telling you what to do but
Say you're sorry and take We's post iin the serious spirit in which it is intended. Just do it or monkey tears will drip into your cauldrons.
Well, since ya axed me so nicely too, I'll try my greenest to refrain. Just don't expect me to turn into a foo-foo candy(expletive) like that Glinda $%Y*&, ok???
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