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Post by Webmaster on Jan 13, 2007 22:10:43 GMT -5
You don't have to go away entirely. Read all you can. You just can't post until you are 18. Good luck. You'll remain in our prayers. Come back with six months of sobriety!!!!
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recoverer
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Post by recoverer on Jan 15, 2007 13:38:50 GMT -5
Right, I will stop posting until I am 18, one question before I refrain from posting, howcomes you have just imposed this rule now, I am just curious,  |
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Post by Webmaster on Jan 18, 2007 14:52:10 GMT -5
Right, I will stop posting until I am 18, one question before I refrain from posting, howcomes you have just imposed this rule now, I am just curious, Some adult members were posting advice to minors that was controversial, and some found extremely unwise and inappropriate. |
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recoverer
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Post by recoverer on Jan 18, 2007 15:14:28 GMT -5
Thnx for the reply I am still clean btw |
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Post by GrowingWiser on Jan 18, 2007 15:29:17 GMT -5
Okay, I gotta' say something here that I hope won't get me in trouble. If I were a teen porn addict who'd been posting here already and saw this message from the webmaster, I'd try to fly below the radar, if you know what I mean. I'd put my talent for pretending to be an adult online that I used to obtain porn to good use: I'd use it online to seek recovery. I'd keep my age to myself but also keep it in mind when reading posts and advice, knowing that all of the advice for the 60 year old porn addicted, married grandfather may not always apply to my particular situation but that some of it will.  |
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Post by Iwantfreedom on Jan 18, 2007 18:25:18 GMT -5
Well, If they didn't think of it on their own...they just got an idea put in their head.
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rocd
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Post by rocd on Jan 24, 2007 9:28:12 GMT -5
I know I've only just joined the site but I thought I'd lend support to the decision. I work in a government organisation that offered a chatroom service for young people and it was virtually impossible to police without infringing on people's civil liberties/privacy. It ended up with some older predators getting in there and getting up to no good. This was a site run by young people for young people! Unfortunately the service was shut down. Better to be safe than sorry for the young ones and the future of the site.
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skraglyone0
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"In the truest sense, freedom cannot be bestowed; it must be achieved. "
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Post by skraglyone0 on Feb 3, 2007 4:32:00 GMT -5
heY GUYS AND WEBMASTER WES,
i dont know if this is possible but could we not have a section of the site that is dedicated to minors eg. certain under 18 treads...a place where they could suport eachother...i recon valjean(if he didnt mind), being the legend he is and a really insparational part of this site, could help to keep input on the right path...THese threads could be blocked to anyone over 18, so it would be a place just for minors to support eachother.
Maybe it is impossible or you may have even considered it and decided it wouldnt work. If that is the case then i respect that but if there is a way, i really think that the individual contact (e.g. when you feel like you are going to fall and you can have imediate support) is so important.
Wes, do you think you can let me know what you think?
Love and stregnth,
Skraglyone0
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Post by Webmaster on Feb 5, 2007 8:42:38 GMT -5
Skragyone0,
I have considered it and there is a way to do it, but no way to verify ages, and I would hate for a predator to utilize the site inappropriately. So I have not put it up... I remain open to suggestions.
Wes
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skraglyone0
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Post by skraglyone0 on Feb 5, 2007 19:08:11 GMT -5
Sup mate,
In my opinion the net is full of oportunities for preditors...i.e. all kinds of"meet up" sites, that would be much easyer for them to target. Even some of the P sites, hook random people up.
Lets take myspace for example, hunderds of people are free to meet eachother, exchange all the info(or lies) they want, view pictures of eachother, and chat privatly to their hearts content.
Were as an open(closed to over 18s) forum, where everybody can see what is being writen, seems a million times safer.
How about, it could be compleatly anonomous, dissabling the email function on under 18s profiles and then the forums must just be monetored to make sure details are not being exchanged. There can be strict rules around the compleat "anon"ness of these under 18 threads. So that even if someone posed as an under 18 they still would not be able to have any other contact, other than through the board were everybody could read and monitor.
It seems pretty safe to me, but i may be overlooking sothing important, please let me know what you think?
Dont get me wrong, i really see/feel your consern, the reason, i am being persistant is that the chance of it being a taget for messed up people, seems relativly small relative to the great deal of "saving/changing" a forum like this could do. I think this really needs to be deeply considered because, a forum like this could really save many young adults from having to get involved as deep as i did.
Much love and peace,
skraglyone0
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Post by neverending on Feb 6, 2007 10:07:32 GMT -5
Wes, I didn't want to get into this, because when this first happen, I was very angry and upset. I felt that the teens here were sent away with very little assistance on where they could go instead.... I have let that go... It is not your fault, you were acting on what you thought was best at the time. I think it is a very good idea to somehow have a place for the teens to go. I feel, as I'm sure most here would probably agree, that if this problem could have be recognized and dealt with at an early age, it would have had much less impact on those of us here now.
First off, why couldn't we just start off with the members who were already here. They could have their own forum.... and in the future.... I also agree with skraglyone, that if the teens didn't have access to PM, then there is far less possibility that any abuse could happen... if it did, we'd all see it....
Now, there is the issue about young people coming here and getting advice from strangers... "don't tell your parents", "tell your parents", "stop", or "don't stop, it's normal".... whatever. People here are ill advised often. Now, you must ask yourself, is no advice better than bad advice? These kids.. as that is what they are, are coming here for the same reason that a 50 year old comes here.... they come here because they are struggling, because they want to stop, because they want help, they want to talk to someone who understands what they are going through, and above all else, they don't want everyone in their life to know about it. Most people have come here with the wish that no one ever know their private struggles... some later move on to tell, some don't... it is a personal decision. Who are we to make that decision... suggest, sure (as we often do). Maybe some feel it is different when a kid comes here because they feel like they are so impressionable.... obviously they are on some level... they have delved a life altering addiction... but these kids also have some insight into themselves as they were able to determine on their own that what they were doing was wrong.... something that has proven difficult, and sometimes quite impossible for an older SA to admit. We must remember too, that when any SA comes here, they are all looking for the truth, and some kind of understanding of what is happening, and anyone, any age can be fooled into believing that what a "tribal elder" says, must be filled with knowledge. When the reality is, that sometimes is it, and sometimes it isn't. The great part of this being an open forum, is generally the masses see fault in what a persons says, and either clarifies, or gives their own personal opinion of the situation... so then the person being advised has several views to consider. There have been teens using this board for years without any issues... that I am aware of, besides this latest one.... I just don't see why it must discontinue now. How do we turn to the youth of the world and say, "Sorry, you're just not old enough for us to help you now, come back when you've got a few years of hell under your belt." How many people here must think that if they just would have gotten help before the problem was way out of control that they might not be here now? I don't know how much you can change the way a person logs in, but if there was a way to hide their personal info... so it's not an option... (ie. where they live)... and take away their mail access.... I am not sure if this could be done.... but I feel that something must be done.
That's my $0.02
Mel
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Post by seaofsmoke on Feb 11, 2007 19:14:44 GMT -5
Bad idea. I understand why, but it's bad. I got hooked when I was a minor and I bet most people do too. I wish I found this site a month after finding out what P is instead a year after realizing I was addicted.
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flint
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Post by flint on Feb 14, 2007 0:29:45 GMT -5
This cuts real deep. I've posted many times before. I'm banned from posting for two years. Great...
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skraglyone0
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Post by skraglyone0 on Feb 18, 2007 16:34:13 GMT -5
wes, mate, any thoughts?
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