what constitutes porn?

[addict70]

If I'm getting off on it it's porn.

But a larger issue is what is art and what is porn? Art itself and porn are merely abstractions therefore how do you define an abstraction in the context of ...... ahh screw it ;D

[mo4wo1]

minime said:

But I've had the same question "what is porn" I was suppose to do the 30 days of no P and no MB, I haven't watched any video or been to any sites and I'm good on the MB but I have been looking at a picture of myself(alone, not engaged in any acts) which I like, I'm not sure if I'm breaking the no P rule.

If you're using it like P, then yes. IMO you are breaking the "no P" rule.

[minime]

mo4wo1 said:

minime said:

But I've had the same question "what is porn" I was suppose to do the 30 days of no P and no MB, I haven't watched any video or been to any sites and I'm good on the MB but I have been looking at a picture of myself(alone, not engaged in any acts) which I like, I'm not sure if I'm breaking the no P rule.

If you're using it like P, then yes. IMO you are breaking the "no P" rule.

Yea, I didn't realize what I was doing until after I looked at it like "OMG wow" So I restarted my 30 days because I've slipped in more ways than one.

[broonx1]

I asked the same question when I joined here about 30 days ago. My definition at one time was very different from what it is now. Exposure to this forum and a better understanding of this addiction in general has opened my eyes to how bombarded we are with "sexual" images everywhere every day. I like the definition "P is simply any catalyst that induces prurient lust".

My definition before recognizing myself as an addict did not include SI, cheerleader calendars, MTV videos, and the Sunday paper. But it does now. Will I ever be able to view those images and not be affected by them ? Yes, I think I will. Just like an alcoholic can't completely avoid ALL references to alcohol in the world. Nor can the porn addict avoid sexuality in todays world. The best practice I guess is to avoid ANY and ALL potential triggers until you are truely ready to tackle the simple little things.I would hope that eventually I can police myself to the level that my previously defined "innocent random" images can be vied as nothingness and have no affect on the chemical production that others have referred to.

I have easily ceased all "R and X rated" Adult images, videos, text and the like. That for me was easy. The other randomness of TV, and advertising and such is harder to avoid, but I am practicing good behavior when i comes to those items.

My toughest "porn" component to overcome is women in public. I used to think it was OK for me to check out other women in public. I used to be married to a woman that didn't frown on it and at times seemed to encourage it. My current wife does not accept ANY of that, at all, period dot. This has been the toughest part of the addiction to overcome. When a woman passes with a shapely figure, with obvious anatomical attributes accentuated or exposed, it is extremely hard NOT to look, though I am really really trying. My latest slip was at a home center. My SO told me that I scanned a cashier up and down at one point when she turned around. DEVASTATING !! I didn't even realize I did it. But I guess I did. This behavior of mine, for me, fits into the definitions others have provided in this thread. It's obviously sexual in nature to look at another woman's posterior, but HIGHLY INAPPROPRIATE and UNACCEPTABLE TO ME !!! Yet I did it. Why ? PA. It;s my last giant hurdle to overcome and likely will be the toughest. I once defined that component of PA as instinctual in men. Is it ? Well I must break that mold if it is or I will lose my SO.

Every PA has their own definition. Every SO has yet another definition which will likely be very different from yours. If you have an SO, i think you should adhere to their definition, because your's is likely skewed in your favor as mine was.

I also agree with BigCountry that most alcoholics can't just drink 1 beer, or use nighttime cold medicine or even gargle with mouthwash without there being a seriously dangerous slip potential. But, can they eventually visit a ball game or watch a movie with alcohol references without it precipitating a slip ? I hope to watch a football game, or a music video or look at the Sunday paper as the NON PA, loving husband, my SO deserves with no fear of a slip ever again.

I will be strong, I will stand up to the barrage. I will fight and win all trigers and urges thrown at me.

NO P, NO P, NO P, it is no longer for me.